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So, every so often I get bored and start playing around with these. I used to spend most of the time on these for hockey, but then they finally listened to me and did it corredtly. Baseball has been something I toyed with every so often, but now with the "interim" realignment and the rules (universal DH) they've adopted, I'm almost certain they'll use this as the excuse to finally permanently realign (and keep the universal DH).

So what could that look like? I'll post different scenarios.

Say, for some reason, they want to keep the 6 division format. Here's what it could look like:
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You have some oddities: Seattle has no home, so they force San Diego out with a couple of other NL West folks. I don't love moving the Padres away, but placing Seattle anywhere else is difficult. @realmofotalk will lose a team he hates, but I'm certain he can hate the A's and the non-Hollywood Angels as much. You can switch Seattle to the Midwest and call it something else, push KC to the Mountain, and San Diego back to the Pacific.

You could switch the Twins and Brewers. The Twins are more north, the Brewers more east. I deferred to the White Sox/Twins rivalry.

The Orioles and Nationals being in a South division is jarring, but no other fit works. Baltimore has long wanted to be away from the Yankees and Red Sox anyway.

Another oddity is Pittsburgh in the Atlantic and the Blue Jays in the North. The Pirates have been begging and screaming to be back with the Mets and Phillies. Toronto isn't as far east as people think, though it is slightly more eastern than Pittsburgh (though Pittsburgh is more eastern than Atlanta...), and they don't have a natural rivalry anyway. Nevertheless, you could switch them and the Pirates.

In the likely event the Rays move to Montreal, you have some easy fixes:
The Reds to the South
The Expos to the North (with Toronto)
Or you can swap the two Canadian teams with the Pennsylvania teams

Overall, I'd prefer the current structure over this one. I'm not a huge fan of the "South" and the Pacific shuffle is kind of a funky mess. It also doesn't keep in mind (likely) expansion.

But this was the first of a few, and probably my second least favourite. Next up, a more familiar and nuanced idea.
 

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This one is pretty simple - let's just cut down the divisions:

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Not much to cover. Pretty obvious movements. Makes expansion easy - move Milwaukee to the East for Portland (the long rumoured and likely West team), and The Rays become the Expos with no change. I presume the next expansion would be Virginia or North Carolina, which slides right into the East.

I actually like this more than our current real life one, but it seems pointless as it'd probably increase travel. But since I broached the idea of expansion, why not travel down that path with our current setup?
 

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Let's say we wanted to keep the same leagues, but prepare for expansion?

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The AL West would take the Portland (or Vegas, or whatever) franchise fairly easily. The AL South comes together easily as well with natural fits. If Tampa moves to Montreal, you flip them and Baltimore.

The California teams make up the new NL West with Arizona. Colorado in no-man's land joins the central time zone teams. Cincy in the South is a little odd, though they basically are the southernmost team. The empty spot is your VA/NC team. The Pirates are finally home again.

Not a huge fan of this overall though as I don't like the overlapping of timezones in the AL North and AL South. Baltimore looks really out of place if the Rays move. And I'm not a big fan of forcing a new world (expansion) into an old idea (AL/NL)

So what about forgetting AL/NL which is likely to happen anyway?
 

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i like 4 divisions league wide, but that projection and the 4 divisions in each league definitely need expansion. i dont like unbalanced leagues. the last projection, that actually has 3 teams in a division... hell no, burn that down.

4 divisions, 2 divisions in the al, 2 divisions in the nl, bring in two new teams... im good with this. as a yankee fan, its a must to me, that toronto, baltimore and boston stay in the same division. the rays are kind of a must too... but if they move to montreal and become the expos again, then i dont care about them and you can put them anywhere.
 

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its his thing, let him have it. hes been on pretty much total radio silence for the last week or so... and then i saw this post, and understood why. hes likely spent every waking moment on this.

it cracks me up when he argues with me on geographical shit like this... because he microanalyzes every piece of information he can and i basically just go... "the yankees have had a rivalry with the orioles my entire life, im not breaking that up because the orioles stink right now".
 

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So this one is tricky when you factor everything (moves and expansion)
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You almost defacto have to split the West N/S, and they line up fairly well. Everything in the west lines up pretty darn well. The Rockies are in a pretty decent spot as well.

You have to get a little creative in the East. It works okay with Tampa, but if they move, you have a huge shuffle. Baltimore and Washington in a division with Toronto and Montreal is an odd fit and splitting the two Canadian teams in that case would seem odd. You could move Montreal to the Atlantic, Philly to the Northeast, Toronto to the North, but it just doesn't quite fit.

Obviously you lose the Giants/Dodgers rivalry which I think is basically a non-starter (along with CHC/STL and NYY/BOS). It all kind of looks disjointed honestly. But not all is lost. What if we combine everything so far?
 

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I may or may not have ate some shrooms. Want ne to take a swing at this realignment?


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get the mets out of the yankees division. theyre allowed to play 6 games a year against each other... another 4 if they play in the world series. thats it.
 

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absolutely. your qualifications should be just as valid as machs.

"well ive smoked really good weed in these cities... so theyre one division. and ive smoked some really shitty weed in these cities, so thats another division."
 

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its his thing, let him have it. hes been on pretty much total radio silence for the last week or so... and then i saw this post, and understood why. hes likely spent every waking moment on this.

it cracks me up when he argues with me on geographical shit like this... because he microanalyzes every piece of information he can and i basically just go... "the yankees have had a rivalry with the orioles my entire life, im not breaking that up because the orioles stink right now".
Cy told me that about the Red Wings and the Blackhawks. I told him the NHL doesn't give a shit about your fandom. He swore they wouldn't break them up.

Now he sits there grumbling and wondering what happened.

Baltimore absolutely does not want to be with the Yankees. But I'm not sure if they will be or not.

Also, on the radio silence, I'm having severe problems with my hand and actually have surgery scheduled June 2nd so I'm trying to stay off the computer. This has just been a result of today, sadly.
 

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i like 4 divisions league wide, but that projection and the 4 divisions in each league definitely need expansion. i dont like unbalanced leagues. the last projection, that actually has 3 teams in a division... hell no, burn that down.

4 divisions, 2 divisions in the al, 2 divisions in the nl, bring in two new teams... im good with this. as a yankee fan, its a must to me, that toronto, baltimore and boston stay in the same division. the rays are kind of a must too... but if they move to montreal and become the expos again, then i dont care about them and you can put them anywhere.
I presume it was part of the TL;DR, but put Portland in the NL West, move MIL to the NL East, and expand to NC/VA or MTL if TB doesn't move.
 

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Cy told me that about the Red Wings and the Blackhawks. I told him the NHL doesn't give a shit about your fandom. He swore they wouldn't break them up.

Now he sits there grumbling and wondering what happened.

Baltimore absolutely does not want to be with the Yankees. But I'm not sure if they will be or not.

Also, on the radio silence, I'm having severe problems with my hand and actually have surgery scheduled June 2nd so I'm trying to stay off the computer. This has just been a result of today, sadly.
i didnt even know they still played hockey in america. they really should just turn that sport into 16 canadian teams, and you can throw like 8 teams on the canadian border in there too if you want.
 

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absolutely. your qualifications should be just as valid as machs.

"well ive smoked really good weed in these cities... so theyre one division. and ive smoked some really shitty weed in these cities, so thats another division."
You realize I pretty much nailed the NHL, right? I think I was two teams off, if that. I may be refuckulous for paying attention to this stuff, but I do have a pretty good finger on the pulse of how things trend.
 

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i didnt even know they still played hockey in america. they really should just turn that sport into 16 canadian teams, and you can throw like 8 teams on the canadian border in there too if you want.
You realize I pretty much nailed the NHL, right? I think I was two teams off, if that. I may be refuckulous for paying attention to this stuff, but I do have a pretty good finger on the pulse of how things trend.
i didnt even know they still played hockey in america. they really should just turn that sport into 16 canadian teams, and you can throw like 8 teams on the canadian border in there too if you want.
 

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absolutely. your qualifications should be just as valid as machs.

"well ive smoked really good weed in these cities... so theyre one division. and ive smoked some really shitty weed in these cities, so thats another division."

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Anyway, the last proposal, and not only my favourite, but what I think is (second) most likely to happen.
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This combines the leagues, and subtly sets up for expansion.

Milwaukee (or Minnesota) moves to the East (Brewers to Central and Rockies to West if they don't want to balance it). Here's where it gets a little tricky. Logically, Toronto makes more sense in the Atlantic - but Pittsburgh, as I noted, really wants to be with the Mets and Phillies. Toronto has no real ties to the rest so they can easily switch, and will be in the same division as the Rays/Expos. The NC/VA team replaces the listed Montreal.

If TB doesn't move, Pittsburgh has to be in the East - with Toronto and the Expos in the Atlantic, so I've treated it as such, though I wouldn't be surprised at MLB switching them and we get this:

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Overall this provides for the most flexibility, aligns it all pretty darn well, and gets almost everyone what they want (except Hammer). The Braves may have a fit being away from the Nationals but I don't think so. I would think this is where we go except something I saw which others may recall...

This was floated in 2017, and I think extremely likely, with the caveat of Tampa being the NC/VA team. It's my idea, but instead of a W/E split in the ET, it's a N/S split. Baltimore gets away from the Yankees and Sox, the Pirates get the Phillies, and Atlanta keeps most rivalries, but I hate the idea of putting Minnesota in the North being how far away they are. I also don't know if NYM/PHI would be happy being split. It's a bit better in terms of economically balanced, and I don't overall hate it.


Taking the two together, we get this which I think is most likely for 2021 (minus expansion teams and MIN/MIL are interchangeable):

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If Tampa moves, you just throw them in the Atlantic and put NC/VA in the East.
 

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I want to see North vs. South. Civil War part dude


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